[Info-ingres] So we advertised for a new DBA...?

[Alex Hanshaw]

Actian is actively going after new business for all of its product portfolio including Ingres. Romy's team have had some recent successes gaining new Ingres business
so the picture you paint is rather misleading.
The HCL announcement will create a lot more new business opportunities for all of the Actian portfolio. New business will drive demand for DBAs and demand
will attract people.
It may be harder to find an Ingres DBA than an Oracle DBA but you'll be paying for it in a number of ways if you go the Oracle root. If you want to make it easier to find
an Ingres DBA you need to promote the benefits of Ingres, Actian X and/or Vector. We have plenty of large scale deployments, x100 is the fastest analytics engine on the planet
and it's far easier to generate an OpenROAD application than it is to build the equivalent using Java.

Alex


From: info-ingres-bounces at lists.planetingres.org <info-ingres-bounces at lists.planetingres.org> On Behalf Of Adrian Williamson
Sent: 25 April 2018 14:09
To: 'Martin Bowes' <martin.bowes at ndph.ox.ac.uk>; info-ingres at lists.planetingres.org
Subject: Re: [Info-ingres] So we advertised for a new DBA...?

Hi,

We can offer you a DBA service for less money than that, and we are interested in genetics...

Sorry couldn't resist.

I suspect most Ingres DBA are comfortable where they are and seeing as Actian doesn't seem to be:


  *   Selling the product into any green field developments
  *   Selling to big software houses to  use the product for their customers or their products
  *   Giving it away free to Educational Institutions *

I conclude that Ingres DBAs are not being made any more.

I was asked recently would I advocate using OpenROAD/Ingres in a large scale online development i.e. requiring lots of resource - and I had to say no.

The market is awash with Java / C# / SQL Server / Oracle monkeys, which makes them easy to find and cheap to hire. (if you have the kind of development process control that can sort out the wheat from the chaff before you blow your budget on substandard nine-to-fivers)

It needs an aggressive marking campaign coupled with a product strategy designed to generate long term licence growth.

Cheers

Adrian

* I started on Window4GL and Ingres because Paisley University as it was known had it on a Beta release. It was lab technician who pointed it out too - not part of the syllabus - I got the course rules relaxed to allow its inclusion.

From: info-ingres-bounces at lists.planetingres.org<mailto:info-ingres-bounces at lists.planetingres.org> <info-ingres-bounces at lists.planetingres.org<mailto:info-ingres-bounces at lists.planetingres.org>> On Behalf Of Martin Bowes
Sent: 25 April 2018 13:19
To: info-ingres at lists.planetingres.org<mailto:info-ingres at lists.planetingres.org>
Subject: [Info-ingres] So we advertised for a new DBA...?

Hi All,

I'm curious.

We (aka Oxford University) advertised for a new DBA. The position was offered with a salary of up to £47,722pa, full time, 3 years fixed in the first instance. The advert did mention we are mainly Ingres on Linux but with other engines (Postgres, SQL Server) and platforms.

Not one person with Ingres DBA experience applied.

Why? Seriously, I was disappointed.

Does anyone have any thoughts they'd like to share on that?

Martin Bowes
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